“Every time someone tries to win a war before it starts, innocent people die. Every time.”

From: Avengers: Age of Ultron

Genre: Movies

Who said it?: Tony Stark

The story behind the quote: This week’s quote comes from the 2015 superhero film from Marvel, Avengers: Age of Ultron. In the film, Tony Stark/Iron Man creates a machine that is supposed to help defend to world from imminent threats. However, the machine, now named Ultron, decides that humans are too destructive and deduces that the best way to ensure the planet is safe is to eradicate the human race. This leads the Avengers to try to stop him before he accomplishes his goal.

The quote comes in the middle of the film when the Avengers seek refuge in Hawkeye/Clint Barton‘s secluded home. Iron Man/Tony Stark (played by Robert Downey Jr) and Captain America/Steve Rogers (played by Chris Evans) are reflecting on how handily Ultron defeated them. The two start fighting regarding why Tony Stark would even create something like Ultron. Tony Stark defends himself by saying he did it so none of the Avengers would have to fight as Ultron would stop all fighting before it even starts. This is when Captain America replies by delivering the quote.

Geek wisdom: While there is some wisdom to try to stop a fight or a war before it even starts, doing so through violent means or trying to do so without thinking of possible negative outcomes, isn’t. Preemptively doing so just might cause more problems.

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Author: Victor de la Cruz

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3 thoughts on ““Every time someone tries to win a war before it starts, innocent people die. Every time.””

  1. Well….not just this but seriously what the fuck would a person like Stark know of war? Or fighting on the frontlines…he was and still is a spoiled rich boy…despite his oh so terrible tragedy of losing his parents he still is a spoiled rich boy that grew up in privilege and lavish wealth and got everything he ever wanted….he doesn’t know what it is like to actually have to work hard just to survive day to day or to fight in an actual war because he never served. Stark knows nothing of war and honestly considering his whole thing against authority is hardly made sense to completely make him do a 180 in Civil War and side with the very authority that he had been against his whole life. The gov doesn’t need to control everything, they control enough as it is.

    And besides too I mean even before all of this in Winter Soldier Cap had gone through all of this with dealing with Fury having the program and stuff that used that algorithm thing to determine if people would be threats and eliminate them ahead of time….and even more so there is another film older than this that comes to mind…old Tom Cruise one actually called Minority Report, these think was three or four psychics that they used the abilities of to determine if and when crimes would happen and they would find and arrest the people before they even usually committed the crime….problem is that it was flawed and could be tampered with. Tom Cruise’s character wound up framed and by doing that all it put doubts on the program they used which did end up being shut down in the end while those released were still monitored.

    You just can’t rely on something man made like AI like Ultron was to help for anything really especially regarding morality because first off it is man made so by that alone it means it will be flawed and make mistake because humans are flawed and we make mistakes. I’d rather rely on human logic than machines to be honest.

    Bottom line is though that unfortunately if conflict is gonna happen, not a lot ya can always do to stop it. Humans just help themselves in that regard. Was something older gentleman once served with once served with said to few of us when seen was another conflict or war on telly, said  War’s the business of kings, gents kings and governments. However they dress it, in the end, the whys and the wherefores come down to one thing. Loot. Bounty. Treasure. Us soldiers, we just do the dying for them.” and that’s the truth of it honestly.

  2. let human life go it’s course. Allowing substitute methods to dictate human life, is just plain dumb.

    letting a machine decide whether people live or die, when we all know machines are not caught up in life, hearts, emotions, suffer losses, etc. So why give it that power?

    if people die before the war begins…then there is a war…the casualties are higher, always…the sum of deaths before the war + after the war!

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  3. let life hobits natural course. If it ends in a war, people die until their is a winner or loser, both.

    playing a boardgame with real lives, and they die, simply adds to the total number of deaths after the game is over.

    if life is precious to us all, the lower-kiĺls method ought to be the human choice. Letting a machine decide the f as te of human lives is just dumb. because machines have no emotions, no soul, no heart, and are immortal in the sense of our actual lives.

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